DISQUS

vwjetta · 1 year ago

Quite Ironic that Officer 'Dube' has a great nose for pot. ;-)

typical · 1 year ago

'Dube' hehe I get it

Hometowngirl · 1 year ago

oh come on , anyone in there right mind knows what is smells like, he deals with this all time, it's his job!!!!

good one · 1 year ago

KHC, read jetta's comment again, he was making a funny. Pretty good one too!

Prospect Hill · 1 year ago

This is a street smart cop using good judgement, he grew up on Tower hill, his folks still live there. We need a couple of dozen Tim Dube's in our neighborhoods!!!!

YES.... · 1 year ago

Because, marijuana is so much worse than cigarettes and alcohol.

Ziggy · 1 year ago

Have someone read you the story again, when your not stoned. Dube tried to cut them some slack, those kids blew it.

Harm less than cigarettes. · 1 year ago

I was not replying to the story, I was replying to the last post. This is a DISCUSSION BOARD. I was replying to the last comment, not the story. Kind of like you, replying to my post. Understand? Discussion board, discuss topics, reply to one another. Got it? Put down the beer, Nice job, DUMB ASS. Got anything else intelligent to say?

Harm less than cigarettes. · 1 year ago

Sorry for the name calling. But, it fits so well.

Officer of the YEAR · 1 year ago

This city needs more men like Officer Dube....Great Job

Buford Pusser · 1 year ago

Yes, common sense AND mercy. Too bad the suspects weren't smart enough to take him up on it.

Jeff · 1 year ago

I think that's one headline for Jay Leno!!! Also, that was really nice of the officer to offer not to arrest them!! What a bunch of fools!!!

I LUV ME · 1 year ago

Sounds like Officer Dube has more humility in his finger nails than Chief Romero has in his star studded body.

jon miller · 1 year ago

Common sense and uncommon commodity. Good job , Tim.

I LOVE LAW-TOWN · 1 year ago

That was stupid they could have walked away with a summons and went to get another dube.

mike · 1 year ago

exactly

IFleedHaverhill · 1 year ago

Whoo hoo. 3 marijuana cigarettes off the street. I hope no real crime happened while two officers were tied up with this foolishness.

Dave · 1 year ago

What foolishness is that? Illegal drugs? A crime is a crime. Let me guess: Pot is harmless, right? What's the big deal, right?

If you disagree with the current law, then get your elected representatives to change it. Until then, follow the law.

Harm less than cigarettes. · 1 year ago

Prove to me, without using "government approved" test results, suggesting otherwise.

Dave · 1 year ago

You first. To begin with, pot is illegal. There's really nothing else I need to write here after that.

Harm less than cigarettes. · 1 year ago

Yes Dave, there is a lot more you need to say. Since you feel the need for marijuana to be kept illegal, AND since you are infringing on my "rights". YOU PROVE THIS TO ME. I can't prove otherwise to you, the government has VERY strict measures on testing. Independent results are nearly impossible to come by. (You'll find this out when you search for the results to prove me wrong.) Please explain to me why marijuana is illegal. For something to be illegal , there has to be something wrong with it. So tell me, what is wrong with marijuana? And Dave, I'm not looking for personal opinions, OR information provided by the government. Un-biased results. Then Dave, Please, explain to me how much worse these effects are than cigarettes and alcohol. Both of which are LEGAL.

Looking forward to your intelligent response. ;)

Harm less than cigarettes. · 1 year ago

Never-mind Dave, anyone else want to try to answer me? Come on, you are all so keen on keeping it illegal. Now prove why.

Harm less than cigarettes. · 1 year ago

Thanks for answering my question, Buford. Oh wait you didn't, you felt it was more important to call me a name, than take me serious.

Come on people, where's the intelligence from all you upstanding citizens? Say something useful.

IFleedHaverhill · 1 year ago

Actually I would never claim pot to be harmless but I would be willing to bet that more harm comes from eating bacon cheeseburgers. Obviously pot is illegal as should bacon double cheeseburgers be. But hey what's the big deal.

Harm less than cigarettes. · 1 year ago

I agree, marijuana is not harmless, also, carrots, milk, prescriptions drugs, even water can kill you if you drink enough. Remember, the radio station incident.

The big deal is some people like bacon cheeseburgers and can go to any McDonalds and get one. Some people like marijuana, but have no choice. Some people can benefit (medically), from marijuana and still have no choice (federally). Other than a pothead, who benefits from a bacon cheeseburger? Especially, fast food.

Just because you don't do It, doesn't mean everyone else shouldn't.

I fled Haverhill also.

APRIL · 1 year ago

Well said.

Harm less than cigarettes. · 1 year ago

Since you agree with him, why don't you answer for Dave?

ohoh · 1 year ago

All Spanish and all Lawrence. Wow these guys are real smart !!!!!!!!!!!!

APRIL · 1 year ago

When will you learn, "spanish" is just a languge not a race.Dumb dumb I tell ya.Dumb Dumb!

Harm less than cigarettes. · 1 year ago

I'm confused, Spanish is "just a language"? So, what are people from Spain called? What's that food they eat?

APRIL · 1 year ago

Most of the people that you're referring to "from Lawrence" are not from Spain,dummy! And the food we eat is , Dominican food, Puertorican food, Caribbean food...

APRIL · 1 year ago

Stop trying to teach me and for that matter, the people who read these comments about a
people, culture and race that you know nothing about. My people were Scholars long before
colleges. I personally love eating platanos not crackers.

Dave · 1 year ago

Ha! Love it. And check out the last names. Surprise, surprise. We'll be seeing these gentlemen picking up trash on the highways real soon.

APRIL · 1 year ago

They're smoking marijuana...but your people's kids are doing meth.

Dave · 1 year ago

"my people?" Who are "your people", April?

Idiot.

APRIL · 1 year ago

You're the idiot who asked us to look at the "last names" Racist fool!

BRIGHTLIGHT · 1 year ago

GREAT JOB TIM!!!

NOW IF ALL THE OTHER OFFICERS WOULD VISIT AMES STREET ON A REGULAR WE WOULD HAVE ALOT MORE ARREST. I CAN'T EXPLAIN HOW MANY TIMES MY FAMILY HAS CALLED POLICE AND THEY WOULD NEVER SHOW UP OR IT WOULD TAKE TOO LONG AND THE CRIMINALS WOULD BE GONE. THERE ARE ALWAYS PEOPLE UP AT THE TOP OF AMES SMOKING WEED, HAVING SEX AND DOING WHATEVER ELSE.

TIM, YOU PUT ALL OTHER OFFICERS TO SHAME.

IT ISN'T A COINCEDENCE THAT AN OFFICER WHOM'S FAMILY LIVES UP AMES MADE THIS ARREST. IS IT??

Harm less than cigarettes. · 1 year ago

What was the officer doing up there? Giving preference to his family over the city? Do you pay him to protect his family, first? What about the rest of the people? What about the people in the next story that had their jewelry stolen? Where was their hero? You want all the cops on Ames St., what about Farnum Street? Not close enough to your house to be a concern? Maybe the cops don't show up when you call about people smoking weed or having sex, because they are out busting REAL criminals. Besides, sex is not a crime. Maybe to you, but not the rest of us.

P.S. There is this new key on the keyboard, well, it's been there for a while. It's called caps lock. People don't like when you shout. It's hostile.

BRIGHTLIGHT · 1 year ago

Firstly, I type with caps lock to aggravate, and seems it worked. hahaha
second, Yes officers should be on Farnham street also as well as many other troubled streets in Lawrence. I was not saying Ames street is a priority.
And no, Sex is not a crime...lol. And people can smoke all the weed they want. But if you want to have sex, rent a room, don't do it outside MY DRIVEWAY!!! And smoking, hey do it all you want out on Ames, just when it is 3-4am and iggnorant people have the music blasing and are shotting off fireworks, rockets, guns, YES, the police should come to Ames when they are called and they never did. That is what my statement was about.

smack · 1 year ago

I don't know what the suspects being "spanish" has to do with this, OHOH. In terms of per capita stupidity, Lawrence has just as many idiot anglo white trash bad actors as Hispanics or Latinos. How about all the fine upstanding Anglo out of towners from all over the Northeast who come to Lawrence and finance our heroin dealers? Stupidity knows no racial or geographic boundaries. Take a look around.

smack · 1 year ago

Dave read my last post and then check out the glass house you're building for yourself. Happen to read the news in Gloucester lately? You sir, are the idiot.

Dave · 1 year ago

Actually shmuck, I stated "most" people, not all. But since the puritan censors at the Tribune decided to delete my post, it's really moot.

Locke · 1 year ago

Put them on an on-line offender registry, so I can protect my children from these monsters.

smack · 1 year ago

The name calling exposes you as the intellectual midget you truly are Dave. You brought race into the discussion. Keep your bigoted opinions in the closet with your white sheet and hood.

Dave · 1 year ago

First off, shmuck: learn how to use a comment/blog site. Second: the old "white sheet and hood" comment, eh? How quaint. See, you've already lost the argument by being a hypocritical, intellectual midget.

I'm laughing at you now. Keep 'em coming.

mike · 1 year ago

If they came clean immediately the cop would have given them a break. They got arrested because they treated the cop like he was an idiot. Cops dislike liars more than pot smokers.

Harm less than cigarettes. · 1 year ago

Good point, Dube just wanted their Dube.

Dave · 1 year ago

Well, these guys are obviously not the brightest bulbs on the tree. They would have ended up getting arrested on a bench warrant anyway when they failed to show up for the summons.

Stupid is as stupid does.

Harm less than cigarettes. · 1 year ago

Does anyone not see the difference when potheads and cars are in the same story. They were not stealing it.

Use Your Heads · 1 year ago

hey harmless, when some pothead runs over your kid because he's too busy zoning out to avoid them, then you can complain about the legality. these guys were in a m/v and that is the major problem. and dont give me the "kids should not be out at midnite" excuse because I know someone will bring that up.

Locke · 1 year ago

I agree. It's a crime for a reason. Put them on an on-line offender registry, so I can protect my children from these monsters.

jd1515 · 1 year ago

It's a crime because some ruthless bureaucrat back in the day decided he wanted his own agency and did not care how many people became criminals overnight. Back then it was "smoking pot will make your white daughters want to date black men," or, marijuana will cause you to rape people. Not enough scientific research was available on the subject for voters to make an informed choice. In the 60's, the propaganda changed, connecting drug use with liberal commie activists. Gone was the old line "marijuana will cause you to murder people," (YouTube Reefer Madness for a great example of ridiculous early anti-weed propaganda) but nobody seemed to care about the kids rotting in prison.
Today you have the sons and daughters of the upper middle class (I'm looking at you, North Andover) able to purchase and use marijuana with little or no consequence until they head off to college (and trust me, it's much more common there) while anyone with an Hispanic surname or who doesn't go to college enters the correctional system. I've seen it with my own eyes- a double-standard exists when it comes to drug laws, which is a great signal a law is unjust.

Legalize it, have the drug companies produce it and tax it, extra-strength punishment for Driving While Stoned (while you're at it, DWI laws need to be more strict) and get government out of people's private lives.

Locke · 1 year ago

If we legalize pot, what will be next? Meth? Prostitution?

Harm less than cigarettes. · 1 year ago

Why not take a Netherlands stance on drugs. It's working for them.

BTW, it's NOT legal out there. But all of you knew that already, right?

Sorry I forgot, were not them, so it wouldn't work here. But, lets not try anyways.

Locke · 1 year ago

Ah, so it seems that the old phrase, "What one generation tolerates, the next generation embraces" is still true.

Those who usually advocate the legalization of marajawana would want us to do the same for other drugs and prostitution.

Ask yourself this: do you really want your kids doing it? I not only want these criminals put in jail, but I want to know who they are (as the article as done) with pictures. I want them posted on the web and in schools, so we can keep our kids away from them.

Harm less than cigarettes. · 1 year ago

Locke, you are so wrong. It shows that you have done ZERO research on the subject. Please come back when you have FACTS.

You can start here:
norml.org/

Do you believe everything the government tells you?

jd1515 · 1 year ago

Prostitution, drugs, alcohol, gambling, etc fall into the mala prohibitum class of crimes- or as I like to call them, morality laws. Other crimes, murder, rape, theft, are universally condemned by most societies in history, so don't think legalizing weed will lead to the legalization of murder. Morality laws, however, depend on the individual society. Ancient Rome had a very different view of prostitution than we do today- yet murder was still illegal.
Prostitution is the world's oldest profession and is widespread today. Anybody believing it can be legislated out of existence is delusional. Our leaders and major public figures practice it without reservation in direct violation of the law. Yet consenting adults who have no connections are deprived of the right to do as they wish with their bodies.
As for meth, it is a substitute for other drugs. Offer these in a controlled, regulated manner and meth vanishes. Drug overdoses are a result of inexperience, misinformation or a mistake made by one of the many middlemen in the process. Drugs can be provided by companies in doses that minimize risk and doctors can advise on health related issues.
Let us not forget the social cost of morality laws. Organized crime thrives on illegal businesses- in the 20's it was bootlegging, now it is prostitution, drugs and gambling. This is how the gangsters afford the guns flooding the streets, not by working at Wendy's.
I, for one, am sick and tired of the rich and powerful adhering to one code of conduct while the middle and lower class are preached to by self-righteous hypocrites like Spitzer, Bush, or the dozens of evangelical preachers who have been busted doing the very things they rail against on Sunday.

Do I want kids using drugs- no. Do I want kids smoking- no. Do I want them drinking- no. You see the point? Get rid of the morality laws, and if you don't want to smoke weed, fine. But let those of us who want to relax do so without fear.
What is bad for you is not necessarily illegal, and sometimes, what is illegal is not necessarily bad for you.

Demosthenes · 1 year ago

Legalize It, thank you. Very thoughtful reply. I disagree, but I appreciate the debate.

Are you saying that all "mala prohibitum" laws (latin for "they're wrong just because I say so") should be repealed in the name of civil liberties?

Can I assume that you would advocate that the charges brought against these young men be dropped on the pretence that the law is invalid?

Locke · 1 year ago

Legalize It - Likewise: good debate. You said, "Ancient Rome had a very different view of prostitution than we do today- yet murder was still illegal." Murder in the streets, yes. But state-sponsored murder in the coliseum for the sake of entertaining/placating the masses is a different story. Ancient Rome may not be the best example. They also allowed (sponsored) slavery, as did and do many other societies. Does this mean slavery should be considered "mala prohibitum" and not "mala in se" (conduct evil in and of itself)?

jd1515 · 1 year ago

Demosthenes- If the kids see trial, I would argue for jury nullification. Unfortunately, the influence of interest groups (police departments) and government bureaucracies (DEA) makes change from within the government impossible. Do I want the repeal of all such laws- an interesting question, and one that speaks to the nature of this debate. I would not say I am for the repeal of all mala prohibitum laws (because what category a law falls into is always up for debate) but would like to see laws (and societal mores) on drug use, prostitution, gambling and gun ownership relaxed and eventually done away with.

Locke- You are right, slavery was a big part of Roman society (and our own economy before the Civil War) and gladiators reflected that. I used that example anecdotally to try and demonstrate the wide prevalence of prostitution in history. We are so far removed from those people and their lack of understanding of individual rights and liberties that I will try to confine my talking points to the post-Enlightenment era. The difference between slavery and prostitution, however, is that one involves consent (assuming the both parties are of age), while the other, obviously, requires one of the parties be held against their will. With the introduction of Enlightenment ideals into the West, slavery has largely disappeared, yet prostitution has remained, although it will continue to exist in the shadows for the foreseeable future.

The reason I focus on marijuana is that I (and many civil libertarians) believe historical evidence, current trends, independent scientific studies and legal principles combine to weaken the government's case for the War on Drugs. Unfortunately, as long as the law continues to be applied unfairly, the middle-class will not care enough to pressure lawmakers to change the laws, and the government knows this.

Oh, and thank you both for translating my legalspeak.

Demosthenes · 1 year ago

Legalize It, your point about prostitution brings up another question. You qualified the legalization of prostitution with the phrase, "assuming the both parties are of age," begs the question, "What is the legal age." This is another example of malum prohibitum.

jd1515 · 1 year ago

Yes, this is another problem I believe needs to be standardized by the federal government- AOC laws range from 16-18 here in the US, but these laws are, like most mala prohibita laws, subject to discretion, often by the parents of the underage party declining or insisting on pressing charges. Personally, I believe in establishing a uniform consent age of 16 like we have here in MA, although we need to remember that everybody has their own personal "age of consent" which is what makes the whole business tricky in the first place.

You've brought up a great point that illustrates one of the problems with politics today, which is that these debates (focusing on "values"- get ready for tons of these in the lead up to November) seem clear cut from a partisan perspective but are really so complex that discussion inevitably degenerates into name calling between extremists on both sides. The great number of moderates just do not care enough or are afraid to participate, so we get low voter turnout and partisanship. In fact, I mentioned that qualifier because I am so used to hearing people equate support for legalization of prostitution with child prostitution.

Harm less than cigarettes. · 1 year ago

And this is not a problem with alcohol?

BTW, where is Dave?
Come on Dave. I'm waiting for your answers to my other post.

smack · 1 year ago

Mr Johnson gave Dave his proverbial walking papers for the evening (see post). God I'll miss him.

Dave · 1 year ago

Harm,

Alcohol is legal marijuana is not. Do you fail to understand that distinction? Like I stated before: ask your elected representatives to change the laws. Until then: obey the laws.

Harm less than cigarettes. · 1 year ago

Dave, I have replied to hat you said before and you have not answered that post. What's the matter? Are the questions too tough?

Harm less than cigarettes. · 1 year ago

BTW Dave, the joke is not on me, never was. But you are really starting to look not so smart, by not answering any posts with intelligent questions. Try being part of an intelligent discussion for once. Come on Dave, your going against someone who has smoked marijuana. How hard can it be? This should be easy for such an intelligent marijuana free person.

smack · 1 year ago

I believe Dave may have called Mr Johnson's bluff (see post removed below)

Dave · 1 year ago

And I believe, shmuck, that you would be wrong. Blocking via IP address? Please, that's child's play to circumvent that.

And Harm: i don't need to answer your asinine questions. Marijuana is illegal in this country: any questions you ask are irrelevant pertaining to the why or how of it. Ask your elected reps to change the law. I know your pot-addled brain really can't understand that, but try anyway,

Mike · 1 year ago

I almost ran someone over yesterday and it had nothing to do with smoking pot. Roads are risky places. You should keep your children out of the middle of them

IFleedHaverhill · 1 year ago

Driving while high on marijuana should be illegal as should driving while on a antihistamine or sleeping pills or any other substance that slows your reaction time.

Harm less than cigarettes. · 1 year ago

Don't forget, Alcohol.

vwjetta · 1 year ago

How about DWO? Driving while old. A person who's DWO typically will display behavior of a normal person that's legally intoxicated (driving erratically) and stoned (driving far under the speed limit with delayed reactions.)

Harm less than cigarettes. · 1 year ago

And when they plow into a market killing multiple people, we just excuse that. Otherwise it would be discrimination.

vwjetta · 1 year ago

Or when they plow into the lobby of a HOSPITAL!

Mike · 1 year ago

Hey Harmless,

Alcohol is legal, pot is not. Do you understand the difference? Personally, I could care less if people smoked pot, but I care a lot about people following the laws we have in place. The laws regarding pot may not be just in your mind, but they are in fact the current law of the land.

If you can remember your history, alcohol was also once illegal in this country. Times changed, and so did the laws.

Other people have suggested that you contact your elected representatives and ask them to change the laws regarding pot. Have you done that?

smack · 1 year ago

Name calling again Dave? Sad...The "argument" in question originated when you called into question the suspects' last names, did it not? By doing so, you insinuated that somehow the individuals' ethnicity played a part in their arrest. You then went on to call another poster an "idiot" and now that your shallow well of insight has apparently exhausted itself you resort to using my own words in an attempted rebuttal? If you're laughing Dave, it should be directed at youself. Don't mess with the bull son...

Dave · 1 year ago

You think of yourself as a bull, shmuck? How amusing. I'm thinking more along the lines of a scrawny lamb with one leg missing.

smack · 1 year ago

Since you've declined to address to the issues presented in my previous post and once again resorted to juvenile name calling, I can only assume that you have no cogent response. I look forward to thrashing you in future "debates". Oh, and Dave, it's not terribly bright to enter a battle of wits empty handed.
Have a great weekend! There must be a cross burning somewhere...

Mike · 1 year ago

You accused "Dave" of name calling, yet you pretty much do the same thing in a more roundabout way. He's a bit of a racist, and you're quite full of yourself. I'd call that even.

This is like watching a boxing match between two men with no arms, each screaming that they have landed a punch. It's rather pathetic.

kjohnson · 1 year ago

Those whose comments do nothing more than call other posters names will lose their posting privileges on this site.

Please keep your comments free of name-calling and profanity.

Thank you.

Locke · 1 year ago

Yay! Thank you. Let's keep it on topic and cordial. There are some real issues to discuss here.

Dave · 1 year ago

And we'll then just change our IP address if blocked and continue on our merry way. Hey, Ken: if you're going to enforce rules, then do it uniformly and without prejudice. It seems some people can get away with it and some can't.

smack · 1 year ago

"Without PREJUDICE?" This from a "man" who just this day implied a person's last name somehow plays a role in his or her criminality? Now I'm laughing Dave. By all means, keep them coming.

Walter Winchell · 1 year ago

Go figure, the goons that got arrested aren't old enough to know better but, old enough to be the losers that they are. Idiocracy is commonplace in Lawrence. I'm not suprised.

Harm less than cigarettes. · 1 year ago

Go figure, I'm not surprised either. Here, is a guy bashing people by calling them a idiots and losers. Are you not "old enough to know better"? HINT: Next time try "are not"; "aren't" is incorrect and makes YOU look like the idiot or loser.

The Destroyer · 1 year ago

Oh goodie: the grammar police are here now. Too bad, because I agree with you about live and let live and making pot legal. You make yourself look quite stupid and anal when going after people for grammar mistakes.

Harm less than cigarettes. · 1 year ago

Believe me, I can care less about the spelling/grammar mistakes. But, I find it funny that someone can call someone else an idiot, while making a 2nd grade, grammar error.

To the rest of you. If you are going to bash someone for being stupid, please, show some intelligence. It's easier to take you serious.

smack · 1 year ago

Can we get away from the use of "stupid" "idiot" "loser"
etc when commenting? I agree the grammar correction is a bit much, yet it seems we have two parties in agreement on the issue of marijuana usage. Name calling is the bastion of the soon to be defeated.

Harm less than cigarettes. · 1 year ago

I only called one person one name and I have already apologized. I would like to see some intelligence from all these people that think marijuana is bad. If they are so right, prove it. It's not a hard concept, especially if their in here saying it's bad. They obviously know what they talking about. Just share it now.

smack · 1 year ago

Harm less...Please rest assured I was not referring to you with regard to name calling. I agree with the premise of legalization but am loathe to accept any form of government involvement with regard to the manufacture and taxation of cannabis. Grow your own my man. Your fire dont bother me.

Harm less than cigarettes. · 1 year ago

I hear ya. Two seeds can provide you for the rest of your life. NO need for drug dealers. NO need for money. Two of todays biggest problems with crime, solved so simply. Why is that so hard to understand? It's just marijuana, a natural weed. No chemicals added/needed. So Simple.

smack · 1 year ago

With all due respect Mr Winchell, while idiocracy IS commonplace, it is by far the sole possession of the city of Lawrence.

bertcj1002 · 1 year ago

I'd rather have my kids smoke weed than cigarettes,or drink alcohol.No violence happens,and isn't as damaging long term.The kids didn't come clean because they didn't believe the cop

Harm less than cigarettes. · 1 year ago

I agree, but it does need to be an adult thing. Like drinking and smoking cigarettes.

Sunshine · 1 year ago

Question for harm less - Do you have a life? A job? Anything ? How is that you have been posting on this site ALL DAY? It was a beautiful day out...you should have been outside. Get a life!

smack · 1 year ago

Sunshine...Personal attacks without knowledge of a person's circumstances or lifestyle seem mean spirited. Self Help Advice hasn't been requested nor has it been discussed.

Harm less than cigarettes. · 1 year ago

Hey Sunshine, Thanks for caring. I do have a life and I have a great job. I i will be working tomorrow, making just over $1 a minute. Just so you know, while you were out drinking, I was here, working, on a Friday night. And I will be up in a few (5 to be exact) hours to go into Boston to work for the day. Just like the other 5 days I do it. So while you are out shopping with the girls. I will building the mall you shop in. Please, next time you see someone with a hard hat on in a mall. Thank them. If it wasn't for us, you would be bored on Saturdays. And on Sunday, I will be out enjoying my day off with my hard earned money.

Thanks Smack!

Harm less than cigarettes. · 1 year ago

BTW Sunshine, I agree with smack, we have had too many insults and opinions tossed around here. Would you, maybe, like to chime in with a few facts around here.
Thanks

vwjetta · 1 year ago

Harm I must agree with you 100% on the legality of Marijuana. I don't even smoke weed but I strongly feel that it should be legalized. I choose not to smoke simply because I don't enjoy it. I smoked a lot when I was younger, but never really liked it very much and hated the side effects it gave me.

Harm less than cigarettes. · 1 year ago

It's not for everyone VW, and thankfully, you are allowed to make that choice. Same as, I don't drink and I recently quit smoking cigarettes. As they don't do anything for me.

Did you happen to see, all these people here, against marijuana, will come in here, and instead of providing facts of why it's so bad, would rather use name calling and insulting people as their justification. Not a single person here as stated a single fact. Like I've said before, they are taking my "right" away, now tell to me why.

blank · 1 year ago

i AM 1 of them that got arrest he did not give us a chance they always right lies in the newspaper......

Mike · 1 year ago

I think in this case the newspaper got it right. Have fun in court.

Cherri · 1 year ago

I worked for a Medical Marijuana Club in Northern California (briefly) in 2000-2002. It was definately eye-opening. I saw some really sick people who needed the medicinal benefits of weed. It's amazing. HBO has a documentary "In Pot We Trust"--very educational and I suggest the opponents of the leagalization of marijuana watch this deocumentary. It may change your views. The government won't leagalize marijuana on a federal level because they can't tax it--too many small time dealers--and the pharmaceutical companies cannot get their cut. THIS IS THE ONLY REASON MARIJUANA WILL NOT BE LEGALIZED ON A FEDERAL LEVEL. Several states are making it legal for "medicinal purposes", and those states "are getting their cut", but the Feds can still come in, close down the marijuana dispensaries and confiscate the weed...but rarely prosecute. The Pharmacuetical companies are slowly getting a piece of the action with a (relatively new) "marijuana inhaler", available to sick people with a state issued Medical Marijuana cards. It'll be a never ending battle until the government gets their share...only then will marijuana be legalized.

Harm less than cigarettes · 1 year ago

You make some VERY good points. But I must disagree with one. Another reason the government won't legalize it is because they now pump over $25 billion into the "war on drugs". Legalize marijuana and kiss that income goodbye. They will have to come up with a new excuse to take your taxes. Like I said. 2 seeds per person can do more good than ANY laws ever will.

jd1515 · 1 year ago

Personally, I believe the DEA- which has an obvious interest in keeping the WOD going, and policemen, many who would be out of work if it wasn't for anti-drug money, are the villains here. Nobody wants to run a campaign on a platform of less police, so in order to keep them away from the debate, politicians will need to promise to redirect that cash towards some other crusade (terrorism) and we won't see much saving on that end. Now, tax revenue from drug distributing small businesses is another matter, as is the money we pour into third world countries to keep farmers from growing cash crops. We would get some of the 25 bil back, but not all of it.

Another reason is, in fact, the unfair application of the laws. As long as the folks in NA and Andover see their kids go on to college instead of prison, they don't much care about kids from Lawrence, who they assume are all gangbangers anyway. Drug test every kid in NAHS and AHS and send those that fail off to juvie and trust me, you'll see some changes in the laws.

Dave · 1 year ago

"As long as the folks in NA and Andover see their kids go on to college instead of prison, they don't much care about kids from Lawrence, who they assume are all gangbangers anyway."

It's not an assumption, it's a fact. Honestly: I wish the state would just round up all the illegals and ship 'em back where they came from, bulldoze the city of Lawrence and turn it into a big Park & Ride and parks for people in the surrounding communities. Everything they have is thanks to our tax dollars.

jd1515 · 1 year ago

It's not a fact, it's a stereotype, just like "all Italians are in the Mafia" and "all Irish are drunks." The only reason you think this is so is because the crime stories are all you read. You don't see headlines saying "So and so woke up, went to work, drove home, went to sleep" because they don't cause any controversy.

12 million illegal immigrants in this country. If even 10% were gangbangers this would be like Iraq.

Cherri · 1 year ago

> Subject: [Disqus] Re: Officer Dube's nose leads to marijuana arrest> From: > To: cheri_555@hotmail.com> Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 21:06:27 +0000> > Harm less than cigarettes (unregistered) wrote:> > You make some VERY good points. But I must disagree with one. Another reason the government won't legalize it is because they now pump over $25 billion into the "war on drugs". Legalize marijuana and kiss that income goodbye. They will have to come up with a new excuse to take your taxes. Like I said. 2 seeds per person can do more good than ANY laws ever will. > > Link: http://eagletribune.disqus.com/officer_dubes_no...> > --> You may reply to this email to post your response. To turn off notifications, go to your Disqus settings at: http://disqus.com/settings/notifications/

Cherri · 1 year ago

...and you make a very IMPORTANT point that the public should know before they pick sides. I remember when I was young and learned that, in France, children are allowed to drink wine with dinner--and at that time (I don't know about now) France had a lower alcoholism rate than the U.S. That just always stayed in my mind. If children were raised in a society where we celebrated the medicinal value of marijuana, and we took the stigma away, I believe the world would be a much better place. I'm not "Pro-Drugs"-I think heroin and cocaine are insidious and destroy people. I don't drink-I just chose not to-but I've know people, men in particular, who get "beer muscles" when they drink and beat up women-I've NEVER heard of anyone smoking a joint and beating their wife. I could go on and on...

The money spent "fighting" the war on drugs is a joke. The government could use a tenth of that money to really study and explore the natural properties of marijuana. Unfortunately, unless the government finds a way to "recoup" that money it;ll never happen.

Thanks for responding!

Cheri

> Subject: [Disqus] Re: Officer Dube's nose leads to marijuana arrest> From: > To: cheri_555@hotmail.com> Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 21:06:27 +0000> > Harm less than cigarettes (unregistered) wrote:> > You make some VERY good points. But I must disagree with one. Another reason the government won't legalize it is because they now pump over $25 billion into the "war on drugs". Legalize marijuana and kiss that income goodbye. They will have to come up with a new excuse to take your taxes. Like I said. 2 seeds per person can do more good than ANY laws ever will. > > Link: http://eagletribune.disqus.com/officer_dubes_no...> > --> You may reply to this email to post your response. To turn off notifications, go to your Disqus settings at: http://disqus.com/settings/notifications/

Cherri · 1 year ago

EXCUSE MY MISSPELLINGS

Harm less than cigarettes. · 1 year ago

Let this discussion got to PROVE that there are two sides to this issue. Those that support it and those that think, they don't support it. When you try to have an intelligent conversation with them they just insult you and call you names. They can provide no facts on why this should be illegal. Do the country a favor and please don't bother voting on this issue until you have educated yourself about it.

Darthvader · 1 year ago

Dude, your name makes me want to smoke!! Dube? Surrrre, Man!