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julio was a family man
alwaysz wit his kidsz &+ yvonne
juss one niqht he wantsz to qo out wit his brother has to be the niqht he qetsz killed?
thatsz juss wronq
r.i.p julio i love yu.!
police were stationed inside clubs. This man had 5 children
why was he out and not home with his wife and children ?
Now these children have no Father. This club needs to be
shut down. Then again someone else will buy it and change
the name of it again.
The fight did not happen inside the club but it could be the clientele that this club attracts that causes the problem. I highly doubt changing it to an upscale club would work out; the place would go out of business because people would be afraid to go to that section of town.
As far as I know there has been a rift between thugs from Haverhill, Lowell and Lawrence for years. This could have been from a previouse altercation. You know exactly who is not from your area so it is easy to pick a fight.
Lets face it there are trouble makers all over the place, look at what happened in Lowell about a week ago that guy that was killed at the local sub shop. People are going to have to watch out where they go.
The shooter is a barber from Santo Domingo, and yes he lives in Lawrence.
The other cities mentioned have proactive Police Chiefs and Mayors who have implemented walking beat patrols.
Now you tell me what the heck does an owner of a bar, restaurant or club have to do with people just arguing and when they go outside they start shooting each other.
It is these animals who can't control themselves c'mon over an argument I have to go ahead and shoot somebody.
Listen who ever is a hot head is going to start trouble no matter where they go. This doesn't have to do with that club or this bar or that one.
A great mayoral platform for him...oh wait he is not running anymore!
Close the place down for the good of our the neighborhodds!
Once again, though, we tend to learn that those involved in situations like this are generally not the fine, upstanding citizens people initially try to make them out to be.
Rest assured that the first person who says something like "You don't know him! He just made a few mistakes in his life!" will confirm that.
I'm reserving judgement until we learn more about what went on here and the people involved.
i have to disagree with this argument from the police department. Does this mean that if I own a club and I have some people go there and leave and at 4 am someone happens to be killed I should be responsible. If the club let these people out at lets say 1 am and they go around hanging out after ours then it is their fault.
People love to hang out after these clubs let out, and they find themselves getting into trouble. Why don't they just go home after, but not they stick around the area.
This has worked in other cities. Trust me no one just becomes a trouble maker over night these are the same offenders who are constantly causing these types of problems.
There are people out there who are more than willing to start problems and fights. They go from club to club looking for problems.
Post their pictures online or something, and I will bet that this sort of thing will stop because people will know who they are.
only the qood die younq
yu left without no wordsz to say
yur kidsz are qonna miss yu so much &+ so is everyone else
i love yu &+ watch over us
we are qonna find who did this &+ lock him up for qood
r.i.p julio we love yu &+ were qonna miss yu soo much
now yur qone buh yur never qonna be forqotten..
love yu.!
love yur family--elaine maria &+ macho..r.i.p.!
By the way unlike Mike Fielding, You wont have to contact the Trib for my IP Address I can give it to you, remember that other racist comment you made in the other story, Come and say it to my face and well see if you get home with your dentures intact.
DON'T GO HANGIGN IN AN AREA THAT YOU DON'T KNOW. MOST OF THESE FIGHTS HAPPEN RIGHT AFTER THE CLUBS LET OUT SO WHY NOT LEAVE BEFORE THEY CLOSE AND AVOID THESE PROBLEMS.
GIVE YOUR SELF ATLEAST 15 TO 20 MINUTES BEFORE CLOSING, WILL GIVE YOU ENOUGHT TIME TO GET TO YOUR CAR AND LEAVE. DON'T HANG OUT IN THE FRONT OF THE CLUB AFTER IT HAS FINISHED, THIS IS WHEN MOST FIGHTS START.
They have to be better than the Arabs. The same could be said for the Blacks. They kill their own kind and blame the whites for it. I don't get it.
We all know X on X hate happens, whether it is as you listed Latino, Arab, Black or whatever, but really there are many reasons, some include regional/cultural differences, religous differences, economics and territorial. Perhaps, in this case, it is when you have a vast majority of one larger group, seperated by multiple regional and ethnic divisions, squeezed into one social and economic category, competing for the same scarce resources and to be the top of a percieved very low rung, divisions become deep and violence enters the solution when no other solution presents itself or is made popular with those willing to exert their influence.
Maybe by saying "they have to be better than the Arabs" you think fighting over religion is worse than what the Latinos appear to be fighting over. I guess I would agree. White on white violence seams pretty varied, we kill each other for many reasons, not sure where that puts us on the scale. Is there such a thing as white on white violence or is it just random violence?
Some people of the middle east think nothing of strapping a bomb to an 8 year old child to kill people of their own ethnic group sitting in a restaurant. Some people in this country, of all cultures, are getting crazy ideas from these examples. I just hope it doesn't get worse with all the economy troubles ahead.
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Nothing personal, just an observation. We in the Greater Lawrence area are not in a sectarian conflict like what is going on in Iraq. Please tell me it's not true that all a Latino man from Haverhill has to do is go into a Latino bar in Lawrence and his chances of leaving there without trouble are about the same as
the Red Sox beating Tampa Bay. Remember, this is nothing personal.
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I'm sorry if I offend anyone.
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HE WORKED FOR A LIVING AND WAS A GREAT FATHER AND FRIEND TO MANY PEOPLE..WAKE UP AMERICA!!! THE FIGHTING IS IN OVER IRAQ...WHERE WE ARE FIGHTING TO MAKE PEACE THERE...BY THE WAY I'M FROM NH!!
what a shame..
This could happen if lets say someone from Haverhill goes to a night spot in Lowell and is with a couple of friends then this person might get targeted.
People really have to watch were they are and about their surroundings.
This area is not well lit, this place needs more street lights if they want to get crime down in that area.
The side streets don't help either because there are not many street lights there on either side.
need to stop their kids from being in gangs and start a
church and school and social workers pastors and
Guardian Angels and police to work in problems spots in
this city we alsoneed to install cameras at all trouble spots in this city
crime will drop big time. latinos start something for others
to follow in other cities. God Bless the latinos families
the city should reguire it at all clubs.
and social workers at all trouble spots and talk to families to get
kids out of trouble spots and install cameras at all trouble spots
in lawrence. the schools and the mayor also the governor needs to step up. lawrence start something that other cities can follow
GodBless you and your Families.Pastor Frederic
Here's a thought for all of you who might frequent a place like this. Save the gangster the trouble and just shoot yourself in the head two or three times.
I'll bet 99.99% of the people who continue to frequent this place are voting for Barak. Let me take that back. 2.5% of the people who frequent this place are registered voters. The rest have to take a plane to vote in their respective homeland.
Lets stop living like animals down there in Lawrence. It's time to put a fence around the entire city and charge admission. We'll call the place a zoo and the patrons are on Safari. We'll call it Chico Bongo's Safari.
What the hell happened to people being held accountable?
Oh and for the cops leaning on the hood of the car smoking with one of Lawrence finest hood rats, careful you might be on candid camera!!!!
http://www.guardianangels.org
All these people bashing Lawrence.. it's making me SICK!
I was born and raised in Lawrence and have done a lot of work for the city. Lawrence has so much potential and there is so much talent in the kids and people of the community. We have scholars, musicians, artists, etc. who have the potential to achieve the same amount of success as any typical blue-collar American. We have activists in the community that are helping these kids fulfill there dreams and are making Lawrence a better place for the future. Never mind trying to eradicate all social sites in the city and wasting your energy on bashing Lawrence. Instead, put energy into helping the community, and bring positive outlooks & support.
I am a 21 year old co-owner and creator of a music production company. I'm a singer, song-writer, composer, and producer who's songs are on local radio stations all day (JAM'N 94.5 being one of them)! Being a person who has overcome many obstacles, sometimes insurmountable, I am offended when people denounce Lawrence in such a way. Lawrence is what made me who I am today and will always be; a strong, ambitious GO-GETTER, who will stop at nothing to achieve what he sets his mind to! In all honestly, Lawrence is not as bad as it is perceived to be.
Don't judge a book by its cover, unless you have laid within its pages! ...its real!!
PROUD LAWRENCIANS,
Hali &
C-Scharp
Check out my music @ www.myspace.com/cscharp
By the way, before anybody says I don't have a right to complain about the city because I don't live there; keep in mind, a great deal of outside tax dollars go to support your city that would die tomorrow if they did not get thise tax dollars. That $120 million dollar high school was paid by outside money and hardly a dime came from your local city taxes.
your welcome.
an American Flag Pin until it was pushed on him and know he's
not wearing it again, He showed No Patriotism in our nation atem and his postor is antiamerican and a racist from a
radical christian or radical Islam,Obama has cop killersand
radicals from 1960 supporting him be careful with this Barrack
Hussain Obbama who is he really? He voted to cut funding for our troops putting them and us in danger, he has No expirience
in goverment he is only a first time senator, If he is a radical
we may have to live islamic laws in america if he wins the elections be and our woman will suffer the most have you seen
how they treat their woman over there, we are at war and our ememies want to destroy us let be careful who we vote for
Who is he really a Radical Christian or a Radical Islam?
1) troop surge
2) Shock and Awe
I say a lot of #2 and then a little #1.