Ok - so other than spewing the same old line - do you care to back up any of your statements with facts -- I mean - i recognize it is an editorial - but, having some facts would help when all you do is complain about facts that the other side states....
Basically - it is like a kid being told that too much sugar is bad for them - and the kid (you in this case) just responds .... "uh uh".....awesome editorial
jmeister_1
· 2 months ago
As usual mx3 calls out for the voice of reason. Right on! (I like the MX3 nickname for you MassMiddleMan! Its hip!)
Plans and plans and plans....yet no one is willing to put the facts on the line and tell the truth. This type of planning would never fly in a 'real' organization. On top of that, a real organization would be able to push away the lies in the claims to get to the truth. From there they could actually move forward.
What gets me is the 'spewing' that we are seeing from both sides for this effort. On top of that neither side seems capable of 'truth'. This type of bickering and posturing would never fly in a company setting.
Set the damn points that need to be covered and work from there. How hard is that for these lame-*ss congress-persons to do? How can an editorial claim that something 'will surely fail' without sighting the reasons why? How about the counter argument for the good in any such bill?
Oh yeah the Republican counter to the healthcare process is to not include everyone. Hey "all for one and everyone for themselves!". Or should I say, "screw your neighbor if he/she needs help with healthcare". That is soooo a religious philosophy. I think I learned that at CCD. "Those how can afford to pay get and those who can't..get nothing". Or was that "help thy neighbor"? I always get those confused.
Too much sugar might be bad for you but too little healthcare is very likely not good for you.
I, like MX3, would like to see some facts and some action on this so that it gets implemented correctly.
Nice MX3 irony there! Oh yeah, no Trib editorials are ever awesome. They are only skewed.
Peace out!
MassMiddleMan
· 2 months ago
MX3 - I'm down with that! :-) I agree with you - both sides are incapable of working through details... Reality is - do we really need that many pages of regulations - anything that big is too complicated to truly implement - it is a shame.... So much good can be done if everyone worked for the good of the American public
C40F
· 2 months ago
If it's as bad as some believe it is, maybe there'll be a mass revolt at the polls next year and the newly-elected Congress will repeal it?
rpmtohz
· 2 months ago
Problem is can any of it be repealed? What entitlement program has ever had a repesl? And that is all the healthcare bill is another entitlement program.
sicknfedup
· 2 months ago
"It will cause many to lose their employer-provided health care and dump them into a government-run plan of dubious quality. It will lead to government directed rationing of health care as the only real means to control costs. And it will add billions to the federal deficit that Americans cannot afford."
...and this is different from our current system HOW?
FormerNorthAndoverite
· 2 months ago
With all due respect to the ET editorial board, this reads like a stump speech by Beck or Limbaugh. As for savings, depending on what source you read, Medicare overhead is between 3% and 6%....Insurance companies (which are for profit institutions) run around 20% and up. That'd be around a 15% savings right off the top.
And as for "control over fully one-sixth of the American economy", get real! Defense spending amounts to 21% of the US budget, Medicare, Medicaid and CHIP is 20%, debt interest is 8%. You act like private insurance will be banned - Of course it won't be.
The Republican mantra was Social Security would be bad for America...Instead, it allowed seniors a measure of independence in their later years. Now we hear that health care reform will destroy America...More Republican canard.
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Basically - it is like a kid being told that too much sugar is bad for them - and the kid (you in this case) just responds .... "uh uh".....awesome editorial
Plans and plans and plans....yet no one is willing to put the facts on the line and tell the truth. This type of planning would never fly in a 'real' organization. On top of that, a real organization would be able to push away the lies in the claims to get to the truth. From there they could actually move forward.
What gets me is the 'spewing' that we are seeing from both sides for this effort. On top of that neither side seems capable of 'truth'. This type of bickering and posturing would never fly in a company setting.
Set the damn points that need to be covered and work from there. How hard is that for these lame-*ss congress-persons to do? How can an editorial claim that something 'will surely fail' without sighting the reasons why? How about the counter argument for the good in any such bill?
Oh yeah the Republican counter to the healthcare process is to not include everyone. Hey "all for one and everyone for themselves!". Or should I say, "screw your neighbor if he/she needs help with healthcare". That is soooo a religious philosophy. I think I learned that at CCD. "Those how can afford to pay get and those who can't..get nothing". Or was that "help thy neighbor"? I always get those confused.
Too much sugar might be bad for you but too little healthcare is very likely not good for you.
I, like MX3, would like to see some facts and some action on this so that it gets implemented correctly.
Nice MX3 irony there! Oh yeah, no Trib editorials are ever awesome. They are only skewed.
Peace out!
I agree with you - both sides are incapable of working through details...
Reality is - do we really need that many pages of regulations - anything that big is too complicated to truly implement - it is a shame....
So much good can be done if everyone worked for the good of the American public
...and this is different from our current system HOW?
And as for "control over fully one-sixth of the American economy", get real! Defense spending amounts to 21% of the US budget, Medicare, Medicaid and CHIP is 20%, debt interest is 8%. You act like private insurance will be banned - Of course it won't be.
The Republican mantra was Social Security would be bad for America...Instead, it allowed seniors a measure of independence in their later years. Now we hear that health care reform will destroy America...More Republican canard.