DISQUS

MBS · 1 year ago

Will the debates show third party candidates? I'd watch them if they did. Otherwise it will be the same utter BS that we hear every four years. Wake up America!

kat333 · 1 year ago

MBS, I side with you on this. I'm not voting for either candidate but am interested in hearing what ALL of them have to say.

MBS · 1 year ago

It's too bad many people completely reject third parties, then complain when the system goes awry like it has now.

From your perspective, what can we do to get people to change this mindset? What can we do to make a third party a viable option?

I follow the Libertarian Party fairly closely, and media bias or not they do not do enough to get their message across. So this isn't entirely a problem that can be blamed on the powers that be in this country.

How do we fix this problem? I know there are plenty of people who would agree with you and I that neither of the two major candidates represent what they believe. How do we reach them and show them that other choices do exist?

kat333 · 1 year ago

I never realized how much anger there is between Democrats and Republicans until I became active in the ET blog. Many are resistant to telling folks how they really feel - until they're allowed to vent anonymously on a blog.

I know part of the anger stems from disappointment and frustration with GWB. I don't feel that these two parties can be united given the wide differences in opinion and sentiment. It's time for a change, but how do we get people to realize that?

From what I can see, people are afraid to think outside the box (i.e., the traditional two-party system). They think if they vote for someone like Bob Barr, they're taking votes away from McCain and they don't want the Democrat to win so they reluctantly vote for McCain. Too bad so many people have that mindset.

I too am a Libertarian and am not sure why their story (or the story for any other 3rd-party candidate) isn't more publicized. Part of it is funding, I'm sure. I also truly feel that the media is to blame for 90% of this as they mostly favor more liberal candidates and don't advertise other choices. People are too gullible and don't want to think or do research for themselves; they're too busy with their lives. They'd rather just vote for who Paris Hilton or Oprah thinks should be president. We have to change the sheep mentality.

Volunteering for a 3rd-party campaigner will help. The more people out there spreading the word about 3rd-party candidates, the more people will hear about them. They'll probably find another candidate whose views closely match their own.

J · 1 year ago

Third party candidates hand delivered George W. Bush to this country!!!!

Is this a fact you're proud of or is your memory failing?

kat333 · 1 year ago

J, I disagree with you on this. George won the electoral vote but not the popular vote.

So I guess what you're saying is that we should all just stick with the two-party system which is not working? This traditional system may have worked 100 or 200 years ago but is not working today. Why should Americans only be limited to 2 candidates?

J · 1 year ago

In the 2000 presidential election in Florida, George W. Bush defeated Al Gore by 537 votes. Nader received 97,421 votes. In fact, all seven of the other third-party candidates on the ballot in Florida each received more than 537 votes.

There's no doubt in my mind Gore would have won without those third party (no--8-party!) candidates murking up the ballot.

I'm all for election reform--but how would adding a third party to the system "reform" it?

Wake Up · 1 year ago

J: a 3rd party candidate also handed elections to William Jefferson Clinton in 92 and 96. Perot didn't win a state, but he got close to 20,000,000 votes in 92. 3rd party candidates can certainly sway elections, but unfortunately there's too much opposition from mainstream politicians and the media for one to win a presidential race.

kat333 · 1 year ago

J, adding other non-traditional candidates will give Americans more options that may closely match our views. The current Democrats are too far to the left and the Repubs are too far to the right. Most of us are in the middle and there's no candidate in either party that's in that spot.

Many of us are tired of the same old rhetoric and the failed promises only made to sway our votes.

Sgt · 1 year ago

Third party candidates are useless.

Copa Cabana · 1 year ago

Thought I would see you in the cabana? where were you sgt?

Sgt · 1 year ago

I was on a police detail at the welfare line helping lawrence residents park their BMW's so they could run in and pick up their checks. Did you have yours mailed to your section 8 apartment on essex street? Did they take food stamps at the bar in the 'cabana' ?

ftp · 1 year ago

No they didn't Flagman. You never get details near my estate, we don't allow "undesireables", much like yourself in our community. You appear through your posts to be from the lower castes, stay where you belong. IN NH Loser!!

Sgt · 1 year ago

An estate in Lawrence?

huh · 1 year ago

Better than a double-wide w/ a satellite dish, and a Transmaro in the drive, in NH anyday. When do you do your dump runs? Or do you just cross the border and dump your trash along the roads of MA?

Sgt · 1 year ago

Well, MA is filled with trash so I would just be adding.

I own properties in both NH and MA btw, however neither is in Lawrence. (or Methuen for that matter).

kat333 · 1 year ago

What is useless about them?

Many of us are sick and tired of the same old broken record from both parties. People want change and they're not going to get real change from either candidate.

Hope & Change is NOT a policy · 1 year ago

J, get you facts straight...>Nader stole more Bush votes than Gore votes...and Perot stole more G.H.W. Bush votes than Clinton votes in 1991....

OPEN REAL DEBATES · 1 year ago

Will you accept the scripted Presidential 'debate' again?
Brought to you by your 'good friends' at Wall Street.

No Paul or Nader Main Street USA,
nor Cynthia McKinney.

MBS · 1 year ago

I went to the RNC and couldn't believe the crap they fed the American people. I paid my way out there, and was forced to essentially become an extra in a commercial for McCain. Any viewpoints not endorsed by McCain were not allowed to be voiced, it was a joke.

The two party system is completely broken. If we don't do something about it soon our country will be in for a rude awakening.

got2 · 1 year ago

how much does it pay?? HA HA HA HA HA!!!

Doldtimer · 1 year ago

It is the same BS over and over. I have been a democrat all my life, but I have voted republican in the past. The reason why has been the issues, not the candidate. But anybody who vote for republicas after 8 year of disater, have to be insane.

Democras will restore peace and bring tranquillty to our homes and the world.

Hope & Change is NOT a policy · 1 year ago

Tranquility at home starts with a good family...tranquility in the world starts when people stop bombing innocent civilians on trains, planes, marketplaces, and high rise towers in major cities.

mcpain · 1 year ago

I plan to watch the debates if both candidates decide to show up.

ftp · 1 year ago

John McCain asked the Presidential Debate Commission on Wednesday to postpone Friday’s scheduled debate with Barack Obama so that he can work on the financial crisis bailout plan now on Capitol Hill.


The Arizona Republican senator said he will suspend his presidential campaign on Thursday to return to Washington to help with bailout negotiations. He urged Obama to do the same.
McCain proves to be a true leader he gets my vote. now watach the MSM they will try to say McCain and Obama suspend their campaign but it was McCain that did it First and this is the TRUTH McCain/Palin are For America my hat is off to them McCain just got 5 more votes

marybeth11 · 1 year ago

The republican party and most of its leaders should be in jail for what they have done to our country.......if it wasn't for McCain and his band of merrymen stealing from the poor and the middleclass and giving it to the rich, we wouldn't be in this mess. Dang....I miss Bill Clinton...we were prosperous and the world liked us.....

Awake · 1 year ago

You need help, of course the world liked us you jackass, Clinton allowed all countries to walk all over us, ask the U.N.

Sgt · 1 year ago

Do you have any proof of that ?

Are you on welfare? Live in lawrence?

ftp · 1 year ago

In the cabana, where copa's like to meet with havana's. I have proof you didn't show in the cabana. you still like to show your ignorance north of havana, copa is a guttersnipe that likes bananas.

MR. Methuen · 1 year ago

Unfortunately Bubba was thrown out of office.

Hope & Change is NOT a policy · 1 year ago

The world liked us? Ask the naval sailors from the USS Cole who died, or all the people in Riyahd, Saudi Arabia who lost their lives in a terrorist bombing, or the people who died in the basement of the World Trade Center in 1993, if "world" liked us....all under Clinton's "good will tour"....let's not forget the 9/11 tragedy was "hatched" under Clinton's watch, too, over a year before Bush took office.

Wake Up · 1 year ago

Marybeth: Bill Clinton had the good fortune to have his presidency fall right between the upswing and decline of the business cycle so don't go giving slick Willy too much credit.

kat333 · 1 year ago

Marybeth. I agree with you there but also feel a good portion of the Democrats should be thrown in jail along side of them. Many of them are just as bad.

All politicians are rich. How can they relate to middle or lower class people?

ZZZZZZZ! · 1 year ago

ftp,You are the biggest idiot I have ever seen. McCain pulls out so he can try to save poor Sarah from having to answer a question next week. I hope McCain doesn't show up and Obama gets all the exposure for his Party. This is just more of the Repubes trying to coerce the public again. I'm waiting for GW's speech tonight, to see if has even knows where Wall St. is.
Could you CUT AND PASTE more of your Conservative drivel for us later?
McCain is now proving that he is incapable of LEADING, he is a runner.
And who the heck is MSM? And will they give us a bailout?

Sgt · 1 year ago

We (republicans) don't want you in our party. You are not worthy.

Former Andoverite · 1 year ago

Guess you were wrong about McCain! He's a phony!!!
He never suspended his campaign....his numbers were low and he needed the attention!

Awake · 1 year ago

Undecided? What country do you live in? Wake up? If This dim-witted country votes in Barrack Housain Obama we are all in big trouble. Try getting some real information on Obama and I don't mean from the left wing controlled media, do some research.

ZZZZZZZ! · 1 year ago

Dim-witted? We must be since we(<50%) voted for Repubs the last 2 elections, and look what we got. I for one am not better off than 8 yrs ago. The repubes have raped and pillaged the working person for the past 8 yrs and won't even give us a reach-around. Or is that what the bailout is? Sorry can't call it a bailout anymore,PC, "rescue plan". It's still a bailout for corporations.
What we need right now is!
JOHN McSAME!!!
he'll just continue the same failed agenda of the Bushies.
RAPE AND PILLAGE!!!
Why can't we get more info on Palin? She is apparently been told by the repubes "to know her role, stay in the kitchen and keep your mouth shut!"

Sgt · 1 year ago

I am much better off than I was in 2000. I have more money, more property, and nicer cars.

I also work hard.

Silly liberal. Paychecks are for WORKERS!!

Debate Must Go On! · 1 year ago

You’re kidding, right? Sen. McCain can’t think the American people– and especially the all-important undecided independents– are naive enough to be fooled by this latest stunt. If McCain can’t juggle several challenges at once, what will he do in the White House? And if he wants to go to Washington, relocate the debate to D.C. Study up, John. America is waiting to hear what you have to say Friday night!

ZZZZZZZ! · 1 year ago

He won't do it, he's too scared!

J · 1 year ago

I completely agree!

Just tell me--what's up with your apostrophe key?

ZZZZZZZ! · 1 year ago

Cut and paste- just like ftp.

Haverhill native · 1 year ago

FTP are you joking, McCain is only going to Washington to side with Bush. McCain is just another wealthy man trying to get richer. You go right ahead and vote for a guy that won't think twice about pushing that big red button the moment he doesn't get what he wants. Have you learned nothing in the last 8 years?

J · 1 year ago

Anyone who thinks this is an example John McCain's "leadership" and devotion to "country" is a fool.
This isn't selfless service to country--this is just a sleazy political move made for political gain.

Wake Up · 1 year ago

J: Barack Husein Osama is neglecting his current job as US Senator by refusing to return to Washington and address the economic crisis. Do his Senatorial obligations to the American people take a back seat to his desire to be the president?

Really? · 1 year ago

What McCain is doing is blatant misdirection. He's just using this manufactured issue to shake things up- his poll numbers are plummeting. Hillary did the same crap when she was losing in the primaries- anything she could to get her name in the papers.

Wake Up · 1 year ago

If you think the economic crisis is manufactured you don't deserve a vote. What does it say about Barack Husein Osama that he can not create significant distance in the polls from a Republican (McCain) when a Republican President (Bush) has the lowest approval rating in history?

Really? · 1 year ago

The economic crisis is not manufactured, McCain's response to it is. He's not needed in Washington right now, and his blustering just brings the whole messy campaign coverage to bear on the negotiations. It makes this into a campaign issue when it is a national issue. Did you read the reports of the meeting yesterday? McCain had little to no input whatsoever.

Wake Up · 1 year ago

Considering these men want to be President of the United States of America they should both be in Washington contributing to a solution.

ZZZZZZZ! · 1 year ago

Hasn't McCain last voted in the Senate in April? And Barak's last vote in the Senate was in July? So apparently it isn't that important to republicans. Once again, the diversion won't work. McCain is just runing scared.

Wake Up · 1 year ago

And Osama's last two votes were to give more money to people who don't deserve it and to make it harder to gather information on potential, terrorists. I guess if that's the kind of thing you want from a president then Barack is your candidate.

ftp · 1 year ago

And if you like CUT AND RUN McCain is your guy!!! What a chikensh#@.

Wake Up · 1 year ago

Barack Osama has passed 1 single bill during his senate tenure and avoided all important votes on subjects like guns, abortion, and crime by voting "present". Yep, he's ready to lead.

mcpain · 1 year ago

STOP THE DEBATES. WE MUST FIX THE ECONOMY THIS FRIDAY, AND THIS FRIDAY ONLY.

THIS MESS, 8 YEARS IN THE MAKING, CANNOT BE ADDRESSED ON THURSDAY, OR MONDAY, ONLY ON THIS FRIDAY.

P.S. Gas was $1.46 when Bill left, and GWB took office.

neutral · 1 year ago

Follow the trail and get the facts straight, lead us straight to the blood sucking liberals, who have you morons fooled!

mcpain · 1 year ago

STOP THE DEBATES. WE MUST FIX THE ECONOMY THIS FRIDAY, AND THIS FRIDAY ONLY.

THIS MESS, 8 YEARS IN THE MAKING, CANNOT BE ADDRESSED ON THURSDAY, OR MONDAY, ONLY ON THIS FRIDAY.

P.S. Gas was $1.46 when Bill left, and GWB took office.

Stan · 1 year ago

As far as choices are concerned, this is truly the worst election I've ever seen in my life. I voted for Congressman Ron Paul in the primary. I had a few critics laugh at my choice. I don't think they'll be laughing in a couple of years or less.

MR. Methuen · 1 year ago

is pat paulson running again?

MR. Methuen · 1 year ago

I'm voting for the war hero whith tons of experience over the Community Organizer

Haverhill native · 1 year ago

He has tons of experience being tortured, the guy is not in his right mind anymore.

Former Andoverite · 1 year ago

He was in his right mind when he dumped his first wife and hooked up with Cindy!!!!!!

Haverhill native · 1 year ago

You mean the drug user, yeah good choice.

J · 1 year ago

John McCain?

"I wish we had 0% interest rates" John McCain?

When this country is in it's greatest financial crisis in 80 years?

name99 · 1 year ago

Ron Paul is our only hope. Since he wont get elected, americans are heading straight towards concentration camps. This whole "economy" thing has been planned for a long time. They planned a depression so that they could take away all of our rights, and start the north american union. No more US, no more constitution, no more bill of rights. Ron Paul exposes the New World Order, look into it, its not a joke.

Unenrolled · 1 year ago

Good luck Gretch. The whining liberals have had their shorts in a twist ever since McCain's brilliant master stroke, naming Palin as the V.P. candidate.
Very few people are truly undecided, it's all about the ideology.

Really? · 1 year ago

"whining liberals"

Did you watch the Republican convention? Read press releases from any of McCain's advisers for the last month? All its been is whining about the liberal media, whining about liberal elites, whining about non-existent sexism from the Obama campaign. You can't ask Sarah Palin to pass a mooseburger without being called a member of the phantom "liberal elite." The worst kind of sexism is the kind coming from McCain and his buddies right now and it is sickening.

ZZZZZZZ! · 1 year ago

Palin was a "master stroke"? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH (fall on floor) AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH(can't breathe)HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHOOOOOOHHH!

sgt · 1 year ago

Is "Silly Sarah" having a few too many drinks on her porch? She now has seen Putin flying over Alaska? What a "brilliant master stroke". Emphasis is not on "brilliant " though.

Former Andoverite · 1 year ago

Are you serious? She's a flake!

MR. Methuen · 1 year ago

I think the Community Organizer will be in deep trouble without his telepromptor

Stan · 1 year ago

No. I'm voting for McCain. Not too happy with him, however I'll never vote for a candidate who has a Che Guevara flag on the wall of his campaign office.
Don't believe me? Go see for yourself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCja99KpjWU

Wake Up · 1 year ago

Good call Stan, for some reason I can't comprehend Guevara is source of inspiration for Liberals but in reality he was just a cold blooded killer.

stupid is as stupid does · 1 year ago

Go ahead and get 4 more of the same, lies, deceit, and hopelessness. McCain is not presidential material, he is another republican boob, who can't face the facts.

Wake Up · 1 year ago

Get ready to pay higher taxes, Osama and Biden have already talked about increases. Biden has gone so far as to say it's patriotic to pay more taxes--apparently, he was absent the day they taught the lesson of the Boston Tea party in school.

J · 1 year ago

Biden was speaking of it being more patriotic for the WEALTHY to pay more taxes--not you!!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l04uWvJJlSE

You've got the internet---check your sources!!!

YOU will pay LESS taxes under OBAMA'S plan than McCain's tax plan.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2r1NpI-ASpU

Wake Up · 1 year ago

J: no, I'll pay more taxes now and eventually you will as well.

Wake Up · 1 year ago

J: what makes you think that people who have done better in life should sacrifice a higher percentage of their pay than you? I guess you are a true Democrat, AKA socialist, if you believe that. It sickens me to think that I'm funding the welfare lifestyle, at some point we've got to cut the cord and make these people get jobs. Honestly, If I wasn't afraid they'd rob me I'd suggest that welfare recipients cut my lawn and clean my house as a way thanking me for supporting them.

marybeth11 · 1 year ago

wake up...his name is Obama....but....you like your republican party of hate and lies you try to tie everyone who doesn't think like you to Osama...by the way...are we still looking for him???So glad your party was against fuel assistance for the elderly and increase of medicare assistance to our nations greates generation...but... a few billionaires ruin our economy and there you are with your welfare for the rich....anyone who is not a multi millionaire that still votes republican is a moron...

MBS · 1 year ago

I hope this isn't the same Stan that said he voted for Ron Paul. Stick with you principles, evil is evil.

Stan · 1 year ago

MBS
So I should write in Ron Paul? Judging by your sound bite, your going to vote for Communist's candidate. That is
not going to happen. I wouldn't be able to sleep if I woke up to find out that comrade Obama was going to run America and it was because he won by one vote.
I have never missed an election or primary, since I started voting in my teens. I've worked too hard to see the little I have redistributed to people who never worked at all.

Go here to see what I'm talking about.

http://www.aim.org/aim-column/obamas-global-tax...

J · 1 year ago

This assertion simply is not true.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_poverty_act

Perhaps you should check your sources a little more carefully next time.

Accuracy in Media? Ironic isn't it? Kinda like Fox News claiming to be "Fair and Balanced".

MBS · 1 year ago

You should do what you feel is right, if that is voting McCain then I guess go for it. If you voted for RP in the primaries, though, I can't see voting McCain as being the right choice for you.

I'm not voting Obama or McCain. Like I said, evil is evil. I wouldn't be able to sleep knowing that I had a part in voting for either of these two men to lead our country. This election I will be joining those who are absolutely fed up with what Washington has done to our country, I will be voting for a third party.

Haverhill native · 1 year ago

Do you realize that not all of our tax money goes to welfare? Most of it will be used to get this country out of debt that has been built up by the republicans. So please ya'll need to get off the welfare train.

Stan · 1 year ago

In all fairness, Obama could have been a good candidate. Unfortunately he was allowed to be near know socialist in his early years. These people had an influence on him. That influence is not conducive to the American way.

Check this out.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE....

A better way might be to put McCain in. Then get real interested in the Republican party. Get in there and curb it's pandering to big business. We'd all be better off if the Republicans pandered to small business and nurtured it. You see, if smaller business provided most of the people's income, things would be better. How you ask? A healthy and natural competition for both workers and markets. A smaller concern has less overhead and less pressure to find money to support a vast management .
this frees up revenues for better wages and benefits.
BTW these large corporations are giving lots of money to Obama.
If you don't believe me check for yourself.

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Bara...

So you see simply voting for someone who vaguely keeps screaming "change, change, change" will not help. You either have to literally take back a party from the roots up, or start a new one.
I had hope with Obama at first. But the more I learned, the less I liked him. One of the most effective candidates I voted for in my life was black. Just a selectman, but what a guy. He got up and told the entrenched school district where the dog died. People were losing their jobs and the school district wanted a big raise.
He got up at a meeting and told them to come down out of their ivory towers and face reality. Now that's a representative.
My biggest fear about Obama is we will become a Communist nation over night. Colin Powell, I could vote for , but not Obama.

copa · 1 year ago

cuz he is not as black, right Stan?

Stan · 1 year ago

No , because when Obama speaks, he speaks in short generalities just like you did. No facts, just a nice short sound bite. Some people like that because it doesn't go beyond their ability to comprehend.

J · 1 year ago

I haven't heard this kind of "commie pinko" crap since they canceled All in the Family.

Stan · 1 year ago

Redistribution of wealth is not "crap" it is reality. Today there are people who do not work living better than those who do work. Do you call that fair? Obama wants to increase instances of this. I've been around over half a century, and every year I see freedom being eroded no matter who controls the government.
My voting choice is to slow the process down. It can't be stopped until we have a multiple party system with possibly coalition government. Obamanation will be even worse, resulting in a one party system.
I predict that Obama will win. I predict that things will not get better. You see, anybody who will actually represent the people will get taken out in the primaries or in the case of John Kennedy, taken out during office. A coalition government would be much harder for special interest to control. And the willful removal of a leader, who be an unacceptable gamble that the special interest would find difficult to make. A coalition government of conservatives, labor, conservationist and liberals would have to earn their keep. Right now it's sit back and collect a big check for approving what has already been pre-approved.

J · 1 year ago

"You see, anybody who will actually represent the people will get taken out in the primaries or in the case of John Kennedy, taken out during office."

You are a freakin' nutcase.

Really? · 1 year ago

You cannot curb big business without over-regulating the free market. Big business is responsible for the growth we've seen over the last 100 years and nobody is going to give that up to go back to 1830.
Oh and your story sounds like every racist I've ever known, "I have lots of black friends, so I'm not a racist...but."

Stan · 1 year ago

How can a white racist vote for a black candidate? Your just using the racist label to silence the truth. It's effect will dissolve in about 2 years when reality sets in. It won't matter what race you are because we'll all starve together.
How many starved when Russia first adopted Communism? You don't know, do you? Here is the answer millions! Check it out.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor

And people actually want that to happen here?

Really? · 1 year ago

Do me a favor. Please, go read up on the history of Communism and Communist states. You'll quickly learn what Obama is proposing is nowhere near Communism. It is not even on the same planet. There is a lot more to Communism than free health care, progressive taxation and money for a college education.

Your idea about small business, frankly, sucks, which is why I think you are just trying to trick people into voting Republican with empty assertions. In fact, I'd say it is more Communist- in over-regulation of the free market by the government to prevent corporations from growing, a return to pre-industrial society plus the inevitable extreme economic protectionism to make sure our small businesses are protected from overseas companies, than anything Obama is proposing.

Stan · 1 year ago

If you knew anything , you would know this. Corporations were allowed to be established as long as they promoted he general good. They have veered away from that principle and moved towards profit at any price. I've experienced this , first hand.
In the 1800's, Trust and Monopoly laws were enacted for a reason. Your candidate, Obama is receiving as much if not more corporate support than McCain. He tell you what you want to hear, but he takes money from big business.
check it out!

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2...

And to J
You keep reading and listening to what they want you to.
Your name calling and labeling is proof that you cannot use facts to prove your arguments.

http://www.john-f-kennedy.net/thefederalreserve...

"In June 1963 Kennedy took the ultimate step against the Fed by authorizing the issuance of more than $4 billion in ‘United States Notes’ through the U.S. Treasury, not the Federal Reserve."
- Jim Marrs, Rule By Secrecy

http://www.fdrs.org/quotes_on_john_f_kennedy.html

Have at it J, send some proof of the falsity of these sources.

Justice 2009 · 1 year ago

I would like to know what percentage of illegal immigrants added to the mortgage/financial crisis? It is funny to hear some of you speak about how Bill Clinton was such a great President, unfortunately it was during his presidency that deregulation was born. Oh yes, Barney Frank headed the coalition that everyone should own a piece of the american dream (homeownership) so he pushed Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac to hand out mortgages to people that had no business owning a home. Democrats would like to believe that the republicans are at fault for this financial crisis, but please know that Allen Greenspan and John McCain attempted to roll out a reform in 2003 and in 2005 to stop Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac from giving out unwarranted mortgages to people that couldn't afford them, but these reforms faced opposition from democrats(Look it up, its all there!) It's funny how you don't hear Nancy Pelosi or Barney Frank calling for an investigation or the impeachment of Bush. It seems they just might have something to hide, because it's not like them to sit back on an opportunity to bash the President of the United States of America. Also, if I am correct I believe Mr. Obama received a check for $127K from Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac, I don't see him mailing that check back. I have a great title for Mr. Obama next book "The road to socialism, how to screw the american people".

It is easy to blame the current President for this economic crisis, but the truth of the matter is that this matter (housing bubble) started long before Mr. Bush came into office and there was only one party who chose to sit back and oppose the reforms set forth by our next great leader.

Also for all those people who went out and purchased homes beyond their means, you should be ashamed of yourselves. Look at the mess you have caused. Just a little personal responsiblity would have prevented this from happening! As for illegal immigration, I can think of 14 million ways America can save some money. McCain/Palin 2009 Bringing America Back!

WAMU failed · 1 year ago

And still Bush-McCain are involved in ANOTHER failed Savings and Loan, but lets overlook that again. McCain is a crook, and Bush is an IDIOT!

Wake Up · 1 year ago

....and Michelle Osama has never been proud of this country until her husband ran for president. She made the remark twice so it would seem as though her husband shares the same un-American views.

marybeth11 · 1 year ago

wake up.....a lot of americans share her opinion on our country right now....I for one hate what the republicans have done to my country....a country built on freedom...a freedom to choose who or what you want to believe in....your party has narrowed that down to mean, you can exercise your right to freedom as long as you are white,christian,war loving and rich.....

BYE!! · 1 year ago

If you need any more clues, GET YOUR MONEY OUT OF THE BANKS NOW!!!!
More bank failures to come, like Washington Mutual today. Do not believe what is being fed through the republican controlled media, get out now and save what you can!!!

Stan · 1 year ago

Yes get your insured deposits out of the bank. Hide them in your house. Then when a thief breaks in and takes them, you'll have nothing.

J · 1 year ago

Whatever you do.........
please don't jump.

Justice 2009 · 1 year ago

I promise change, change and more change. What I want to know is Barack Obama interested in changing policy or changing America? If you want goverment healthcare that will have you waiting 6 months to see a Doctor.....Vote Obama. If you want your 5 year old child to learn how babies are made....Vote Obama. If you want more of your paycheck to support Section 8, welfare, TANF, etc....vote Obama. If you want affirmative action at center stage (Heck he used it)....vote Obama. If you want the soldiers that defend this country to quit on a mission that could protect america from terrorist....Vote Obama. If you want to disarm the world of nuclear weapons, by disarming america first ....Vote Obama. If you are black (95% Vote Obama .. but that's not racism. If you want a good woman behind every great man....Vote Obama (Hillary found out the hard way!) If you want higher taxes and more wasteful earmark spending....Vote Obama If you want a President that is more liberal than Hillary Clinton....Vote Obama.

If you want to put someone in office put a person who is proud of his country, someone that will pledge allegiance to the people and better yet, be sworn in on the Bible rather than the Koran.

Also, ask yourself this.....How will a person with Muslim roots defend America against muslim terrorists?
I guess if you believe that we can have 3rd party talks with terrorists....Vote Obama

Think twice before voting for this man, the world will pay the ultimate price and it will hold a price tag more valuable than money......our freedom!

marybeth11 · 1 year ago

Justice, let me guess....you have a confederate flag flying outside your house....

Wake Up · 1 year ago

Marybeth: are you kidding with the "anyone who is not a multi millionaire that still votes republican is a moron..."?

Barack Husein Osama wants to raise taxes on people he considers rich, his definition of rich is people making over $100K a year--which really isn't even that much money. He wants to raise cap gains, which will impact anyone who transacts stocks (which is 100,000,000 million Americans including myself), he also wants to raise the social security wage base which is currently at $102K and has already increased an average of 3.7 % per year over the last 8 years (a $22K increase over that period). I find this to be particularly objectionable since it's most likely that I won't be able receive a social security dictionary commensurate with my input.

I work way to hard to give increasing portions of my income to welfare mothers or socialized medicine--which doesn't even work well.

If you don't earn enough money go to college, if you still don't make enough go get a graduate degree. If you aren't the college type learn a trade and join a union (they provide jobs and protection for the laziest Americans).

I firmly believe that this country offers the opportunities to better you position in life, you just have to want to it badly enough to earn it. It would seem as though the democrats want to take money from the people who have earned it and give it to those who haven't. If that's the kind of America that will make you proud then you should cast your phone for the admitted cocaine user Barack Husein Osama.

Haverhill native · 1 year ago

Its too late to talk about freedom now. If you wanted your so called "freedom" than you should have voted for Ron Paul in the primaries. Does anyone know what the constitution is anymore? So for all those who are throwing around the word freedom keep in mind that we are losing our freedom more and more. This country turning into a very selfish place to live.

kevin_texas · 1 year ago

Ditto Justice. I think we are in a world of **** if Obama is president. and lets not forget whps running the finance and banking asylum, your buddy and mine Barny Frank, man this story gets better and better

J · 1 year ago

Didn't you say just 2 days ago the " wake up people, the economy isn't that bad"??

66 · 1 year ago

no that was McSame who said that, then 1 week later he is running off to save washington, then didnt do anything when he got there............

kevin_texas · 1 year ago

Your are right "J" I did say the economy is not that bad. I stand by that. Gratefully I am alot better off than 8 years ago. My point here was really not the economy as a whole it was the problem of this banking crisis. Lets not forget who has been incharge of the congress the past couple of years. Its the Dems, this all happened under thier watch. Gas prices werew under $2 a gallon until they got a stranglehold on congress. Obama would be a complete disaster to this economy. You tell me how he plans on paying for all the government spending he is proposing. I wonder. I am very concerned about him being our president.

J · 1 year ago

So you disagree with your fearless leader?

Even George says, "Our entire economy is in danger".

Wish I could live in your bubble.

kevin hanley · 1 year ago

This just in: McCain FLIP-FLOPS; He will participate in tonight's debate!

kevin hanley · 1 year ago

This just in: McCain FLIP-FLOPS; He will participate in tonight's debate!

Wake Up · 1 year ago

speaking of flip-flops: Osama on Biden's Initial Opposition to AIG Bailout: 'Joe Should Have Waited."

Wake Up · 1 year ago

while we are on the subject of flip-flops: Joe Biden told CBS' Katie Couric last night that an ad painting John McCain as unable to use a computer was "terrible."

"I thought that was terrible, by the way," Biden told Couric. "I didn't know we did it. If I'd had anything to do with it, we'd have never done it.

He later flip-flopped on his critisim of Osama saying: "I was asked about an ad I'd never seen, reacting merely to press reports. As I said right then, I knew there was nothing intentionally personal in the criticism of Senator McCain's views which look backwards not forwards and are out of touch with the new economic challenges we face today.


"Having now reviewed the ad, it is even more clear to me that given the disgraceful tenor of Senator McCain's ads and their persistent falsehoods, his campaign is in no position to criticize, especially when they continue to distort Barack's votes on an issue as personal as keeping kids safe from sexual predators."

Which is it: terrible or the right thing to do?

stan legendre · 1 year ago

you seem to be really good at cut and paste

Wake Up · 1 year ago

Stan: you seem to be good at using punctuation and capital letters.

Stan · 1 year ago

It's copy and paste Stan. Some of my critics wish it was "cut and delete"! Anyway, they don't seem to be able to back up anything they assert. Wait until their own little bubble worlds pop.
There is a reason people struggle and sometimes even break the law to get here. It's the ability to have a chance at success. Something unavailable elsewhere. They are leaving either an impoverished republic or a socialist republic.
Unfortunately more and more of them are becoming disillusioned with the way things are getting here. One good thing about an Obama
administration, they won't have to build walls to keep illegal immigrants out anymore, because they will see no need to come here. He'll send them the money via instruments such as the U.N. and his Global Poverty Act.
He will truly implement "from each, according to his ability, to each according to his need."
Americans will truly lose the desire to produce and that will accelerate our downfall.

Wake Up · 1 year ago

yet another flip-flip: on 917/08 Biden Said That He Didn't Support Clean Coal And Said "No Coal Plants Here In America."

on 9/21/08 Biden Called Himself A "Hard-Coal Miner" And Said It Was "Nice To Be Back In Coal Country." "'I hope you won't hold it against me, but I am a hard-coal miner, anthracite coal, Scranton, Pa.,' Biden said. 'It's nice to be back in coal country.

Which is it?

kevin hanley · 1 year ago

Dear Wake Up,

Glad to see my light-hearted 2 line witty comment induced you to write an encyclopedia of drivel, no-one will read.

Wake Up · 1 year ago

Kevin: it would seem as though you read it. Or is it that you didn't need to read the information to decide it's drivel because you have such a closed mind?

tytl · 1 year ago

Don't need to watch the debates. I am not a Socialist/Marxist. one of the candidates is.

I will vote for the one who isn't so i don't need the debates.

tytl · 1 year ago

Watched the debates and McCain got his a#@ beat.
Why does McCain have to be such a dunce at times?

kat333 · 1 year ago

While I could have extrapolated info and put it in my own words, it wouldn't have been the same because Michael Graham says it so much better. So I thought I'd partake in the cut-and-paste game. I found this article interesting, courtesy of Michael Graham...

On The Facts, Sen. Obama Strikes Out
by Michael Graham September 27, 2008 @ 08:44

Quite a few Obama supporters are upset that Sen. McCain repeatedly claimed that Sen. Obama was clueless about various issues ("Sen. Obama doesn't seem to understand...") Sen. Obama, for his part, repeatedly pointed out during the debate that Sen. McCain was right about various issues.

Interesting strategy.

But simple-minded American that I am, I'm more interested in whether or not Sen. McCain's observation about Barack is accurate. Did Sen. Obama show a lack of knowledge and understanding about the issues last night? Let's go to the transcript:

HENRY LOVES BARACK? Sen. Obama repeately claimed last night that former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger supported the Obama plan for presidential, face-to-face meetings with kooks like Castro and Iran's AhmedWhack-I-Job "without preconditions." As Sen. Obama put it:

Senator McCain mentioned Henry Kissinger, who's one of his advisers, who, along with five recent secretaries of state, just said that we should meet with Iran -- guess what -- without precondition. This is one of your own advisers....When we talk about preconditions -- and Henry Kissinger did say we should have contacts without preconditions -- the idea is that we do not expect to solve every problem before we initiate talks.

Well, here's what Kissinger himself had to say immediately after last night's debate:

"Senator McCain is right. I would not recommend the next President of the United States engage in talks with Iran at the Presidential level. My views on this issue are entirely compatible with the views of my friend Senator John McCain. We do not agree on everything, but we do agree that any negotiations with Iran must be geared to reality."

Strike one, Obama.

MCCAIN'S "TAX BREAKS FOR BIG OIL?" Sen. Obama repeated on stage twice what his ads say on TV every day:

John, you want to give oil companies another $4 billion...And if we want to talk about oil company profits, under your tax plan, John -- this is undeniable -- oil companies would get an additional $4 billion in tax breaks.

So, does Sen. McCain really want to give special tax breaks to Big Oil? Uh....no. Sen. McCain's plan is to cut taxes on ALL businesses (we currently have the 2nd highest corporate tax rate in the industrialized world). So, yes, given that oil companies pay hundreds of billions in taxes right now--they paid more in taxes than they earned in profits last year--if every business pays a lower tax rate, that would include people in the oil business. It also includes people in the office supply, online porn and ox-breeding industries, too. Why isn't Sen. Obama pointing out McCain's plan to "give breaks to Big Ox?"

Now, it is true that Congress recently voted on an energy bill with tax cuts specifically cutting taxes for oil companies. And, as Sen. McCain pointed out last night, he voted against it. Sen. Obama voted for it.

Strike two.

OBAMA'S "95% SOLUTION": Sen. Obama said again last night that he's got a tax cut on the way for almost every American alive:'

So my attitude is, we've got to grow the economy from the bottom up. What I've called for is a tax cut for 95 percent of working families, 95 percent.

Sounds great, right? Only one problem: a lot of those "working families" don't pay federal income taxes. How are you going to cut taxes they don't pay? According to the National Taxpayer's Union, the top half of American taxpayers pay 97% of all federal income taxes, leaving the other half to pay a combined 3%. Most of those familes pay no federal income taxes at all. Sen. Obama isn't proposing a tax cut--tax rates on the vast majority of Americans will either remain the same or go up under Sen. Obama's plan. Instead, he's planning on sending those non-payers an income tax "rebate" check--despite the fact that they never "bated" any income taxes in the first place.

That's not a tax cut. That's welfare.

Strike three, Sen. Obama, and we're not even close to being out. More fact errors from Sen. Obama coming soon...

Wake Up · 1 year ago

Great post.

TANYA · 1 year ago

VOTE OBAMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE WORLD NEEDS A CHANGE!!!!! ESPECIALLY FROM REPUBLICANS!!!

kat333 · 1 year ago

You're right. Obama will certainly be a change, perhaps not one the one we're looking for when he raises corporate taxes to 50%, forcing companies to move offshore to remain competitive. Bye bye jobs!

Sorry we failed again. · 1 year ago

They're already going, why worry now? Worry more about why we are bailing out the free market. The free market has failed, much like the Soviets during rayguns admin. we need solutions not more failed agendas like that of Bush.

kat333 · 1 year ago

How is Obama's plan better? The US has the highest corporate tax rate in the world right now and Obama will make it higher, driving companies out of the US, or out of business all together.

Us and Them · 1 year ago

Can I say something? I'm proud to be an American because we are the greatest country in the world. I'm proud to belong to the majority that knows we're right. The socialists and commies want to ruin our world. Our parents went through the depression and WWII to make a good life for us so we could go to college and get good jobs and live the good life. All the inconsiderate people who took out mortgages they couodn' t afford are responsible for this mess we're in. I have a good paying job and a nice house and nice cars. I deserve them. I'm not a criminal, I go to church and I work hard. People who can't find work should just try harder or lower their expectations. I'd rather have a college grad flipping my burgers instead of some high school kid.
George Bush is one of the greatest presidents we ever had. A true patriot supports their president and country no matter what, right or wrong! Anyone who thinks differently is stupider.

marybeth11 · 1 year ago

us and them.....you my friend are an idiot.....George Bush is one of our greatest presidents??? Even the rightest of right wingers wouldn't say that......as far as backing up your not being a criminal statement by saying you go to church....hmmm....the catholic church????? Can you say child abuse?????

tytl · 1 year ago

Now there is your typical left wing argument for you. Bo substance just name calling. The left has really raised the ad hominem to an art in this election. Substance, forget about it, it is more fun to throw insults at the candidates, oh, and while your at it don't forget the husband and kids.

This is the saddest national election that I have ever witnessed. Change for the sake of change, hope against hope and it looks like we will be stuck with a Marxist in the White House. What Russia threw off in the 80's we are going to embrace.

What a mess.

kat333 · 1 year ago

It's sad that people can't voice their opinions without getting insulted. Why are you calling this guy an idiot? Sure, I don't agree that GWB is the best president., but that's his opinion and he's entitled to it in America.

Also, there are many other religions. Why are you assuming that he goes to a Catholic church? I go to a Protestant church and have people that I consider close enough to be family. Is that such a bad thing? Just because someone goes to church, doesn't automatically make them a fanatic.

KylieStills · 1 year ago

Wow... we're 'stupider'? You are a fool and your words say so.
Our parents went through the depression to make a better life for us?
On the contrary, they didn't have a choice.
And while enduring it, I'm sure they thought...
"Wow, this is surely going to give our kids a better life!"

This country is on it's way to hell.
And it's people like you who will in the end pave the road there.

American_and_Proud · 1 year ago

Please watch this Sarah Palin interview on the Cafferty Show on CNN. Follow this link: http://www.cnn.com/video/savp/evp/?loc=dom&vid=.... 'Nuff said.

kat333 · 1 year ago

LOL. Unlike the other candidates, Palin is not savvy with dodging questions. She's got a lot to learn.

I think it's interesting how many people think McCain has one foot in the grave already. The title of that video indicates that Sarah is running for President.

American_and_Proud · 1 year ago

She's not unning for president, but there is a reason this country has a vice-president...in case something happens. And although, I do not wish ill on anyone...the older one is, the higher the probably of something going wrong. There have been 9 vice-presidents that have succeeded to the presidency and an additional 2 have been acting presidents (one for Ronald Regan and the other for G.W. Bush - twice for him)

Now, let's not forget that she would also become the President of the Senate & could potentially break tie votes in the chamber.

Wake Up · 1 year ago

Let's not forget that Palin has more EXECUTIVE experience than Barack Husein Osama, who by the way is responsible for a only single bill while in Congress.

1 pretzel short · 1 year ago

"Um like Putin pops up and disappears like where does he go? we're here and where does he go?"
Genius! pure Genius!
At least smarter than Bush.

J · 1 year ago

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/4176/putinre...

66 · 1 year ago

I just clicked on the link above for the interview that palin did and am shocked at what a twit we'll end up with for president if McCain wins and dies in office. Obama and Biden have my vote.

J · 1 year ago

We should all be scared.
Very scared.
Please watch.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvesa49zSIM

kat333 · 1 year ago

Both candidates stink and regardless of who is elected, both will cause harm to this country one way or another.

66 · 1 year ago

I dont see what everyone is so exited about over the McCain/Palin ticket. Its like voting for Elmer fudd and that mother from married with children........

American_and_Proud · 1 year ago

Wake Up: That does not justify Palin's poor performance either.

American_and_Proud · 1 year ago

Also, regarding the "single bill comment made previously:

Fact - Obama has sponsored 136 bills since January 2005. Sponsored means, in the United States Congress, a senator or representative that introduces a bill or amendment and is its chief advocate. Two of those bills became law. Additionally, Obama co-sponsored 619 bills during that same time period.

Wake Up · 1 year ago

American and Misinformed: Here's an example of Osama's work. S.RES.291 : A resolution to congratulate the Chicago White Sox on winning the 2005 World Series Championship.
Sponsor: Sen Obama, Barack [IL] (introduced 10/27/2005) Cosponsors (1)
Latest Major Action: 10/27/2005 Passed/agreed to in Senate. Status: Submitted in the Senate, considered, and agreed to without amendment and with a preamble by Unanimous Consent.

Yeah, he's an impact player!

66 · 1 year ago

McCain has had multiple types of skin cancer removed already, that we know of just by watching the news, and I'm not sure but I think the old guy forgot to put in his uppers for the debate.......Never mind the fact that he refuses to turn over his med records....what does that tell ya, Hhm !?!?

J · 1 year ago

God help us all.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/28/palin-...

J · 1 year ago

Here's the Library of Congress site every informed American and voter should know about.

Look up any bill, your Rep or Senators sponsorships and their voting records.

http://thomas.loc.gov/

Thanks for the inspiration, Wake up--but I'm not playing dueling bills with you.

Wake Up · 1 year ago

While you at it looks get to know your candidate from a moral perspective:

The fact that a corrupt Chicago Machine politician "made a U.S. senator" out of Barack Osama

How Barack Osama won his first election by having his lawyers knock all his opponents off the ballot on technicalities

Osama's support for a grotesque "infanticide" law that was too extreme even for Nancy Pelosi

The Tony Rezko connection: "I've never done any favors for him," says Obama about convicted developer Tony Rezko. Oh, but he has...

The admitted cocaine use.

J · 1 year ago

I know "Wake up" knows this...
But for everyone else, be aware he is copying and pasting hateful false propaganda:
http://74.125.45.104/search?q=cache:EDNx2VbyweU...

Next time please footnote.
:rolleyes:

Wake Up · 1 year ago

He admitted cocaine use in his own book. Are you doubting that?

Wake Up · 1 year ago

Sorry, forgot to footnote.

Osama discusses his drug use, including cocaine, from his high school years into college: here's what he had to say about himself: "Junkie. Pothead. That's where I'd been headed: the final, fatal role of the young would-be black man. . . . I got high [to] push questions of who I was out of my mind."

The above is an excerpt from "Dreams From My Father: A Story of Race and Inheritance" Written by Barack Hussein Osama

J · 1 year ago

Yes he did and I don't care. It was hardly an unusual activity of his age group in the 1980's culture.

Hey wait a minute.....

What about your boy Georgie and his alcohol abuse and (supposed) cocaine use?

Wake Up · 1 year ago

J: Bush used drugs/alcohol and I don't see him as the model of an overly successful president (even taking into account extenuating circumstances like 911). So based upon your logic it's easy to make the same correlation to Barack Osama?

J · 1 year ago

I din't intend to make that leap.

Any modern upcoming president (or person, for that matter) is going to have some behavior from his adolescent or college years come back to haunt him.

It doesn't make him unqualified to serve as an adult.

I didn't hold Bush's alcohol and supposed drug issues against him---there were plenty of other things...